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Written on: 28. 05. 2009 [19:42]
Noukie
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Let’s hope someone will indeed listen to their plight. You right sisters! That’s what one got to do-protest! Something needs to be done to corruption in African states.

And the funny thing is that; it’s not just Africa alone where one hears about these corrupt officials or shall I call them generals. I must have read an article somewhere today on British Gordon Brown scandal. I took this one thought out of the article”, this is not Mitterrand's France, in which corruption spread to the heart of government. It is not Mobutu's Zaire, in which the president built his own Coca-Cola factory and imported pink champagne on Concorde to slake his thirst while his people starved.Wow,Wow!!!!

Believe me the British MP’s and Gordon Brown did not defraud, mismanage funds because they needed to buy basic commodities but to maintain their lavish lifestyles yet they have the right to make such statements about Zaire. But I guess when the Kandaras & friends and all my brothers who believe in buying a million rand Mercedes for a Minister as a gift can get way with it whilst their own people are starving-Then we blame the system.

The same system that promise to deal with the employee who admits to 407 fraud counts and releases the one who defraud millions .She only earned a mere R6000 and a mother of two for that matter. Maybe she really needed the money to provide for basic commodities like she claims. Unemployed lost her pension to repay what she stole. How fair is it in comparison to what all the corrupt Politician's and generals get’s away with?

I guess the mighty and powerful ones will always escape the hands of justice. And the system will keep pushing some of us who are powerless.

Written on: 29. 05. 2009 [09:45]
gjensen
Gerard Jensen
registered since: 02.01.2009
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Noukie wrote:

Let’s hope someone will indeed listen to their plight. You right sisters! That’s what one got to do-protest! Something needs to be done to corruption in African states.


Hm. Actually the idea regarding corruption should be: don't just moan about it, but instead make sure you don't sponsor it. Each time you come accross a corrupt official, make sure you report it. After all, there should indeed be resources available to track those criminals (and yes, if you are a government official and take bribes or otherwise engange in nepotism or other corrupt behaviour, you are to be rated as a criminal) and get them ousted from their jobs - however that only works, when the public (spell that: you and me - and all the others that read this) actually *DO* something.

Sitting in the street with a sign "stop corruption" isn't doing something, and it won't get much better by toi-toiing around either... icon_frown.gif

We have security companies abound in this country, some of which have their very own "surveillance and investigations" department - so I wonder: if it's worth your money to have them look after your couch and TV all day, it should probably be just as much worth to pay them to infiltrate and investigate certain corrupt structures in Namibia, shouldn't it?

It may already be enough for some of these folks to know that they may be closely watched by undercover security staff - that may already frighten them to the point of stopping their behaviour.

A cardboard sign in the news hwoever probably won't stop anyone...

Noukie wrote:

And the funny thing is that; it’s not just Africa alone where one hears about these corrupt officials or shall I call them generals. I must have read an article somewhere today on British Gordon Brown scandal. I took this one thought out of the article”, this is not Mitterrand's France, in which corruption spread to the heart of government. It is not Mobutu's Zaire, in which the president built his own Coca-Cola factory and imported pink champagne on Concorde to slake his thirst while his people starved.Wow,Wow!!!!


As soon as you connect power with money and poor political supervision, you have that very same development anywhere in the world. As such you are correct: it's not just a Namibian or African problem, but rather a problem with governments assuming that they know "better" than their voters. Usually that is to be observerved in socialist structures - after all, there you have that said ill-fated combination: a lot of cash, deeply nested hierarchy structures and the general misconception of "it belongs to everyone" being translated into "that's not my business" - leading to extremely poor supervision.

Nothing else is happening with Gordon Brown - Labour Party, Privy Council, Lord High Treasurer - well, you do the maths. It's no so much his cleaner that is the issue here - it is the ill-fated combination of money, power and a dumbfounded government that is so naive to believe it's politicians actually understand themselves as "public servants", when in all reality they perceive (and treat) the public as not much more than their private doormat...

Noukie wrote:

Believe me the British MP’s and Gordon Brown did not defraud, mismanage funds because they needed to buy basic commodities but to maintain their lavish lifestyles yet they have the right to make such statements about Zaire. But I guess when the Kandaras & friends and all my brothers who believe in buying a million rand Mercedes for a Minister as a gift can get way with it whilst their own people are starving-Then we blame the system.


They did as they did simply because someone let them do it. If you have rigid policies that are not just printed on paper but actually followed up with appropriate actions, they would have known that sooner rather than later they will get caught with their fingers in that proverbial cookie-jar. But since nobody bothered... well, the temptation just becomes unbearable, doesn't it?

It's a bit like putting up a gold plated "no parking" sign for a large amount of money somewhere in the city - and then forgetting that you also need to pay more than just a pittance to the police force so they can actually enforce what's printed on that sign. The result is pretty much predictable: not only will they park there, ignoring the sign - but you'll soon have some prankster stealing that sign, and if that someone is caught he may even proclaim "yeah, but that sign was worthless anyway, as nobody abided by it - so it's best to just take it down, which I did..."

Noukie wrote:

The same system that promise to deal with the employee who admits to 407 fraud counts and releases the one who defraud millions .She only earned a mere R6000 and a mother of two for that matter. Maybe she really needed the money to provide for basic commodities like she claims. Unemployed lost her pension to repay what she stole. How fair is it in comparison to what all the corrupt Politician's and generals get’s away with?


The point is: both knew very well, that they did wrong - but since nobody but her is loosing any face here, it's easier for politicians to say "see, that's what happens to you when you commit fraud..." then to admit that they should have known better than to put that fraudster amongst their mid, entrusting him with a lot of power while at the same time failing to monitor what he's doing.

If you truly unravel the case, you'd probably end up with a situation where some high ranking political office bearer would be forced to take his hat, as that said someone would have to admit not doing his job - which is: supervising his subordinates.

Fish always starts to rot at the head, you know...

Noukie wrote:

I guess the mighty and powerful ones will always escape the hands of justice. And the system will keep pushing some of us who are powerless.


It's also got to do with the trail of people that leads to that criminal. And I'm talking about the hierarchy *ABOVE* that someone, not below it. It is their inaction (or for that matter, and just to stay as diplomatic as possible: half-hearted approach) regarding corruption that causes this dilemma.

Two choices here: either that chain of superiors drastically changes their approach towards corruption (and that is: in actually *DOING* not just in producing hot air on political rallies), or you let the people change these superiors.

Since the first approach obviously failed so far, the "action" part is up to you. And if you decide that standing on the street with a cardboard sign is about as far as you'd possibly go - well then, that's where you are right now already, isn't it?

Politics (and with it: corruption) is *YOUR* responsability. Take it seriously, and politicians will start to take it seriously. If you don't... well, then every now and again you'll have the same dumb headline news over and over again...

Gerard
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