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Written on: 17. 12. 2008 [16:26]
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Charlene
English
Topic creator
registered since: 15.12.2008
Posts: 7
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Is ther new topics you can discuss besides the new website we all know by now that is cool. 
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Written on: 02. 01. 2009 [16:52]
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gjensen
Gerard Jensen
registered since: 02.01.2009
Posts: 39
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Charlene wrote: Is ther new topics you can discuss besides the new website we all know by now that is cool. By the looks of it: all previous users have obviously been deleted, including all posts, profiles and whatnot. Which is a bit disappointing - quite a bit of effort has gone into all of these discussions afterall. At the very least, we still can rely on the waybackmachine to head back to "those days" when there were plenty of forums plus a multitude of topics available (unfortunately, content only makes it into the waybackmachine roughly 6 months after it has been published, so the "youngest" content of those forums will probably only reach it by mid-June 2009). What was clear from the start though: the first to come back are those that abuse forums like these for spamming. Nobody with even a basic amount of knowledge on how to use Google probably needs a "course" on how to create his own website - one would probably rather need a site to explain how to legally make and accept overseas payments not just by credit card without violating forex rules in Namibia - but allas: they're the first to offer their "services" here. Let's see how quickly the huge diversity of possible forums can be recreated here then - so far I have not seen an option to create any of your own, so I guess as people return and re-register here, this single one (basically now not much more than a guestbook) will get pretty much overwhelmed with posts. |
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Written on: 10. 01. 2009 [23:36]
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Sphinx
Kamau Anthony
registered since: 22.12.2008
Posts: 4
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Charlene wrote: Is ther new topics you can discuss besides the new website we all know by now that is cool. Dear Forum members, I realise i must have disappointed some from my website creation course post. I wish to sincerely apologise for any inconvenience i might have caused in the process. This post was done sincerely (without knowledge that it would be disturbing to some members of the forum). The post was done to assist persons who might be thinking of ways and means of making some form of passive income etc; all in a nicely packed course. The world is going through some very tough economic times after all...so i thought somebody might benefit from this. The course however is genuine and has genuine information that encompasses alot of very comprehensive information on how to make it work no matter what part of the world you are in. Again my apologies to those who were offended. |
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Written on: 12. 01. 2009 [01:40]
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gjensen
Gerard Jensen
registered since: 02.01.2009
Posts: 39
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Sphinx wrote: I realise i must have disappointed some from my website creation course post. I wish to sincerely apologise for any inconvenience i might have caused in the process. This post was done sincerely (without knowledge that it would be disturbing to some members of the forum). The post was done to assist persons who might be thinking of ways and means of making some form of passive income etc; all in a nicely packed course. The world is going through some very tough economic times after all...so i thought somebody might benefit from this. Now let's keep things straight here: that you try to promote something and as such search for places on the web to do so certainly isn't disturbing or disappointing. I certainly have no problem with you attempting to do business here - as long as it is clearly marked as an advertisement and does not promote illegal activities, you can pretty much do as you please - I may just comment, if I think that there may be similar offerings elsewhere on the web that could be better deals for those that read your ad here, but you'll surely agree that this is my perogative. After all, this is not a platform just for advertising, but also for commenting. Come to think of it:you may notice that I haven't even commented your actual entry, but chose to comment on a different topic - just naming your post (which still strikes me as more than odd - more on that later) as an example of ad-posters being once again the first to "use" forums like these. That is indeed disturbing - and unfortunately your comment won't change my opinion that easily. Let's see why: Your website http://www.makeyourminisiteeasy.com/ contains quite a number of "oddities" that probably won't strike anyone that visits your site for the first time - especially if that someone is not well versed in investigating via the web, what he is about to visit. Let's just say that meta tagging your website with keywords like "get rich quick" or "make money online", "make money quick" as well as "affiliate adult" and "free mp3" does not exactly make it look like a really honest attempt to "give people advice". Let's force you to be honest here: your "site" is based on a template from http://www.minisitesmadeeasy.com/ which is run by Instant Insiders Publishing LLC based in Flower Mound, Texas. Simplified for those that don't quite understand it yet: our friednly Sphinx here earns (or at least *thinks* he will ever earn) money by soliciting visitors to subscribe to that site. Mind you - that website clearly displays a "purchase agreement" in its footer, which you should carefully read, before you fill on your details and hit the submit button. Essentially what *you* get from that "membership" you enter into, is a bunch of free "tips" - the prime one of which is to "upgrade" your "membership", preferably to "gold" status - 'cause that's where you get the "real stuff". They might want to call it "Multi Level Marketing" - I call it "Pyramid Scheme" - and our little "Sphinx" here seems to be both victim as well as perpetrator. The idea is to coax money from you - and at the very least some email address which is then probably used for all kinds of "free marketing activities". Go figure for yourself, what that probably means to the volume of unsolicited emails cramming your inbox in the near future... Sphinx wrote: The course however is genuine and has genuine information that encompasses alot of very comprehensive information on how to make it work no matter what part of the world you are in. You are dishonest. Your website is dishonest. Your MLM "affiliate marketeer" is dishonest. And from what I can read in those "free" elements that can easily be viewed over the Internet (for example via Scribd.com), the only type of "comprehensive information" you get from this course is the folloowing: unless you are sucker enough to upgrade you membership to "gold" level, you get plain zip from it. You earn your money from tricking people into falling into that trap - granted, that's your business. But you can rest asured, that I will invest any effort necessary to blow your crooked pyramid marketing scheme out of the water - after all, you are not at all the first to try. But let's not be counter-productive here: if you really aim at creating your own website "for free" (please note that basically *NOTHING* in this world comes without some sort of pricetag - and if it means that you are obliged to live with ads on "your" site), take a look at Weebly, and if you really want to get down to the true nitty-gritty of it, check out http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Website as well as of course WikiHow itself, where you can learn to make all sorts of things - not just websites, but possibly also the stuff you actually want to sell via a website. If you intend on making money from your website, you will very quickly reach the limits of what is still "free" in this world - essentially that means that you either have to pay in order to host your website, or you will be charged according to the quickly growing traffic on your website, or you may find yourself in a position where you do not want to outsource anything and thus need a permanent Internet connection, your own webserver, and depending on your personal preference may need to purchase the one or other software package. A "free e-commerce website" in the wild is about as rare as a free brick-and-mortar shop that you happen to stumble accross in a town. Or to make it easy to understand: in my life I haven't been able to stumble accross one. An I'm working in the IT business for *quite* some time now (read that: centuries, not just years...). Sphinx wrote: Again my apologies to those who were offended. Don't appologize. Get your act together and become honest. Gerard |
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Written on: 15. 01. 2009 [23:36]
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Bwalya
Bwalya Gurirab
registered since: 15.01.2009
Posts: 3
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Gerard Jensen..you are some piece of work or is it art? You never fail to inform, entertain and of course..swaai daai sweep (teasing) |
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Written on: 20. 01. 2009 [01:04]
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Sphinx
Kamau Anthony
registered since: 22.12.2008
Posts: 4
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I wish to make just a short response about the “advice” given below. This is because I believe we all have a lot more important things to do than responding to these types of comments; while doing this, I could not help but wonder at the origin of this discussion; is there a limit as to who may access this forum, and for what reason? Is the forum limited to only a select few? As far as I know, forums that do not allow postings from non-members will not publish your post until they have reviewed and approved your membership. Again, post on a different thread that does not interfere with any unrelated previous thread but starts a thread of its own should be ok… About the comments; Truth always stands right on its own. A tag of war to pull the truth to either side is a useless undertaking because the truth will not move from where it is. All the readers I guess are mature people who are able to visit the website and verify the information given for them. It does not cost you a cent to be able to verify this for yourself. The videos are free currently as indicated; the gold option if you do get to go that far, is given at a cost. But again, it has a 90 day’s guarantee tag to it. Anybody who seriously wants to look for the dishonesty in the whole site would thus be able to do so within the 90 day’s at no cost. Here are some words from a person I consider very wise; he once mentioned that the worst advice you can get is free advice. If you really want to make a serious decision; hire a pro to advice you. That way you get someone who has walked the path before and knows enough about it to provide meaningful advice. Keep well folks. |
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Written on: 23. 01. 2009 [12:51]
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gjensen
Gerard Jensen
registered since: 02.01.2009
Posts: 39
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Sphinx wrote: I wish to make just a short response about the “advice” given below. This is because I believe we all have a lot more important things to do than responding to these types of comments; while doing this, I could not help but wonder at the origin of this discussion; is there a limit as to who may access this forum, and for what reason? Is the forum limited to only a select few? Could you, or could you not post a reply? As such, what are you complaining about - sign up and comment or do not sign up and don't. It's dead simple, so don't try to come up with rumors that there would be "limits". Those limits that exist (e.g. the availability of a valid email account and the inability to create more than one account with the same email address) prevent spamming and fake identities. Or was it exactly *that* which you wanted to do? Buhuu... so sorry... (not!)  Sphinx wrote: As far as I know, forums that do not allow postings from non-members will not publish your post until they have reviewed and approved your membership. Again, post on a different thread that does not interfere with any unrelated previous thread but starts a thread of its own should be ok… Well, what do you know - you got the hang of it: if you want to post here, you need to have some sort of "verified identity" to do so. Having your own email account is enough (so far). That is an automatic review - but quite obviously, the admin may or may not decide to revoke your account as and when he so pleases. One thing is for sure though: you do not "own" your thread here - *anyone* can comment on it, and of course he or she can also post a comment that may not be to your liking. If you want to avoid that, then there's a simple cure: do not post stuff that may lead to controversial discussions. Posting a veilled attempt to gather folks in an MLM marketing scheme *is* controversial. As you obviously found out... Sphinx wrote: About the comments; Truth always stands right on its own. A tag of war to pull the truth to either side is a useless undertaking because the truth will not move from where it is. All the readers I guess are mature people who are able to visit the website and verify the information given for them. It does not cost you a cent to be able to verify this for yourself. The videos are free currently as indicated; the gold option if you do get to go that far, is given at a cost. But again, it has a 90 day’s guarantee tag to it. Anybody who seriously wants to look for the dishonesty in the whole site would thus be able to do so within the 90 day’s at no cost. Yes, truth always stands on its own. Let's see how much truth we can elicit from you then: as you are obviously talking about a website that you have created to earn money for yourself, how about you tell us all, exactly what kind of "product" or "service" you are offering - or for that matter: what you are re-selling on your website, and at what specific cost for those that may think about purchasing that "product" or "service" (in this case: for review purposes only)? At least I can't see any on your site - not a single product you explicitly endorse or promote, apart from an MLM website of which you are a member. So tell me more about truths then... Sphinx wrote: Here are some words from a person I consider very wise; he once mentioned that the worst advice you can get is free advice. If you really want to make a serious decision; hire a pro to advice you. That way you get someone who has walked the path before and knows enough about it to provide meaningful advice. Indeed so. As mentioned, I am working in the IT business for quite some time, earning my keep as a (granted: pretty expensive) consultant. Over the years, my portfolio of expertise has obviously grown considerably - especially in the professional outsourcing, housing, web-development, an e-commerce consulting arenas. Large companies base huge budgets (regularly beyond EUR 1 million) on my reccommendations. I highly value honest and well educated competition in that field, as it gives me the chance to exchange thoughts with people that know more in a specific field, than I obviously do - and as such allows me to expand my knowledge in that respective area. So what kind of "meaningfull advice" do you think you can give me here? So far, I can't see any. Sphinx wrote: Keep well folks. Yeah right. And you go find me an MLM "expert" that can convince me of your scammy marketing ploy. You obviously can't. Again, so as not to be counter productive: to those that really think about launching their own web based business, I can certainly only continue to motivate you to do so. Setting up shop on the Internet is obviously considerably cheaper than having to rent your own business premises - and if you have a look at "shops" like Zoomii (http://zoomii.com/), which is based on the Amazon line of products (both the EC2 and the Amazon affiliates program as well as the S3 storage service - all from Amazon), you can easily get by with just your skills (in this case, building the website took 18 months, generated a traffic of over 150000 people in the first few weeks and that generated more than 650 book sales - just to give you a feasible idea of what figures to look at: this certainly is no "easy money" and will not make you an "armchai millionaire" simply by watching a few cheap Youtube videos) and source just about all of the rest elsewhere. But please note: a commercially successfull e-commerce website that has been built at "no cost" or "for free" (as suggested by Sphinx) is simply *UNHEARD OF*. Like with all businesses, create your own business plan *prior* to signing up with anyone, be that for designing the website for you, hosting it or otherwise supplying you with any product or service. The reason is simple: *NONE* of them come for free, and if you have a shoestring budget to start with, Expenses is something you should not only closely monitor as they are being created - but you should be aware of what costs are to be expected even *before* you start. With Sphinx "free advice" (which he discredits himself, thankfully), you have none of that. Unless of course, Sphinx produces a complete breakdown of all costs involved in building your own (not at all: "free") e-commerce website. But quite honestly, I don't expect him to do so. He was naive enough to sign up with an MLM company with murky payment policies himself - so what great advice would you expect him to produce? But hey, Sphinx - perhaps you manage to surprise me. Which, after a total of 25 years in the IT business, will definately be some feast. Then again, let's all see what you can come up with. As mentioned, I'm most certainly not resistant to learning something new - so far however, your MLM scam theme (and most importantly: the idea of lurking people to sign up for an (in relation to what they might get: expensive) service by promising them "free" information (which they could obviously also get, if they know how to use search engines on the Internet)) is not at all something "new". So try harder. This sure *didn't* work. |
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Written on: 23. 04. 2009 [12:46]
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TheSandcat
Mike
registered since: 23.04.2009
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What about this chinese spammer with his damn crushers? I think this forum needs some rules.And an administrator. |
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Written on: 30. 04. 2009 [15:49]
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gjensen
Gerard Jensen
registered since: 02.01.2009
Posts: 39
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TheSandcat wrote: What about this chinese spammer with his damn crushers? I think this forum needs some rules.And an administrator. That may be a different story alltogether - "he" is in all likelyhood nothing more but an automated spammer-script. Reacting to it in any other way but complete ignorance means you talking to a machine - there are better ways to make a fool of oneself  One proposal for example: try singing "My Way" after one Caipriinha too many. Certainly gives you interesting results - just ask George from Texas... (no, you probably won't know him - although he's indeed quite some character...)  [This article was edited 1 times, at last 30.04.2009 at 15:50.] |
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Written on: 19. 05. 2009 [16:34]
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TheSandcat
Mike
registered since: 23.04.2009
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I don't think he is a script. anyway, the IT guy could just delet this nonsense. |
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